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    ае, бая повече е постигнала в личностен план и реализация отколкото теб.

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    Обаче тя дали има образование? Майка ми и баща ми са вишисти и са доста интелигентни хора. Те никои ли са в сравнение с Мадона?

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    И на всичкото отгоре като като *Лунатрик* решават, че си певица...и че простосмъртните не са достойни дори да те обсъждат.

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    eeee, достигнахме реалноста и истината

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    Мадона може да я обсъжда който и както си иска. Това че не е кой знае каква певица си е истина. Натрупала е известност и пари покрай скандалите, свързани с нея.

    "Music, sweet music, I wish I could caress, caress, caress..."

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    Ае, добре. Обсъждайте си я и си мислете, че сте големи пичове така като я нареждате. Дайте сега да се върнем на темата за музиката и факта, че никойникой не спомена елетронната музика. Да не би да мислите, че само защото се прави на компютър това не е стойностна музика ?

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    elektronnata muzika smurdi.horata koito q slu6at sa skapani metaman4eta i ne mogat da se zabavlqvat slu6aiki liubimata si muzika bez da sa nafukani s kup [met]amfeti.get the fuck outta here

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    ооо, явно не си бил на истинско парти
    заряда определено е там особенно, когато има известен гост DJ

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    ...там, особено когато...

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    Цитирай Първоначално написано от exploitedteen
    редене на бийтове и семпли...
    бързо омръзва...
    няма го заряда на живата музика...
    Най-точното обяснение защо електронната музика не е стойностна.

    "Music, sweet music, I wish I could caress, caress, caress..."

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    lunatrick ti kvo hapva6 predi da otide6 da poslu6a6 muzika na nqkoe parti?4ere6i?supermen4eta?karton?parket?ili si 4e6e6 nosleto?ili psilocibinki?ili vsi4ko?a?

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    eto vi informaciq otnosno edno ISTINSKI pozitivno dvijenie plod na hc kulturata i na hc muzikata,pulno otricanie na tvurdenieto na hilqdi bokluci,4e ne mogat da po4uvstvat muzikat akoqto predpo4itat ako ne sa natupkani s petstotin vida opiqti ili stimulanti.az NE sum straightedge,no podkrepqm ogromna 4ast ot elementite na tozi lifestyle.x Drug Fuckin' Free x!

    The short answer is that it is a subculture centered around hardcore music. People who are straight edge do not smoke, do drugs or consume alcohol. There are no dietary or religious beliefs tied to straight edge contrary to media coverage. The long answer requires a bit of a history lesson

    In the late 1970s and early 1980s a group of bands and kids began something that grew into a movement. It would become a movement that would outlive many of their involvement in the music and the scene. They didn't know what they were doing. They knew they didn't like what was going on around them, the self destruction, the self hatred, the pain and suffering caused by the punk mentality. The fuck you and fuck the world attitude didn't make sense to them. They took a symbol that was originally used to identify them as being too young to drink so that the bartenders would know not to serve them and they made it their own. So they started setting themselves apart by wearing X's on their hands and by singing angry songs proclaiming:

    "I'm a person just like you
    But I've got better things to do
    Than sit around and fuck my head
    Hang out with the living dead
    Snort white shit up my nose
    Pass out at the shows
    I don't even think about speed
    That's something I just don't need

    I've got the straight edge"

    Minor Threat wrote this song in 1980 and a name was given to what would become a movement. The basic beliefs that drugs and alcohol were not needed and should be rejected. That one should live against the grain of popular society and live by rules and standards from themselves and not the ones dictated by society.

    Influenced by Minor Threat and other Washington DC bands like the Teen Idles and SOA, the Boston bands SS Decontrol and DYS took the words to heart and expanded on them and expanding Straight Edge's presence within the growing hardcore music genre.


    SS Decontrol, Forced Down Your Throat from the GET IT AWAY LP

    What's there to do weekends here
    Go to a party drink some beer
    Everybody's drinking why shouldn't you
    Be a part of the drinking crew

    CHORUS:
    That's real cool you're a man
    Forced down forced can
    Forced down your throat
    Forced down your throat

    Conditions set conditioned to drink
    Too much pressure just won't think
    Look what's next smoking a J
    Think for yourself break away

    [CHORUS]

    Do the hard stuff its real fast
    Do it straight the buzz will last
    Fuck off you I ain't no waste
    Why drink that when I just can't stand the taste


    The East Coast was not the only place where Straight Edge was starting to take hold. West Coast bands Unity, Uniform Choice and 7 Seconds were each adding their voice to the growing chorus.

    Uniform Choice, Straight and Alert from the Screaming for Change LP

    Who drinks the barley?
    Who drinks the grain?
    Who shoots that shit into their veins?
    Is there really the need for the use of dope?
    Does it solve ones problems
    Can it help one cope?

    All the above bands were active between 1981 and 1984. Things stalled at this point. It wasn't until 1985 that a band would come along and change straight edge forever and turn it into the movement that everyone involved today knows and loves. This band was Youth of Today. The record that would change it all was Can't Close my Eyes. During its existence youth of Today featured pretty much a who's who of New York Hardcore. Youth of Today shared members with bands that would define the youth crew and straight edge sound for years to come. Bands like Bold, Side By Side, Gorilla Biscuits, Judge, and Project X. These bands together would form the backbone that all modern straight edge bands benefit from. These are best represented by the lyrics of the song that named the era.

    Youth of Today, Youth Crew from the Can't Close my Eyes 7"

    Me you youth crew!
    If the world was flat I'd grind the edge
    To the positive youth my heart I pledge
    X on my hand now take the oath
    To positive youth to positive growth
    To positive minds, to pure clean souls
    These will be all my goals
    Walk with me and my crew
    There is so much shit we can do
    And we won't stop until we're through

    The Youth Crew era lasted through the late 80s and straight edge would never be the same. It was now a movement. It was more than just a set of personal beliefs. It was something more. It was more than words it was a force of change in the world.

    The late 1980s and early 1990s found many straight edge bands becoming more and more political and more geographically dispersed. California saw bands like Inside Out, Insted, Chain of Strength, Outspoken, No for an Answer, Carry Nation, Chorus of disapproval and Unbroken. Seattle saw bands like Brotherhood and Undertow. The east coast had Turning Point, Mouthpiece, Flagmen, Crud, Battery, and Lifetime.

    Brotherhood, No Tolerance (For Ignorance) from Fuck Racism, No Tolerance EP

    So proud of your country, nationalistic pride
    So proud of your race, prejudiced mind
    If you so love your country why can't you see
    It's made up of all people, no racial boundaries

    We're dedicated to stop your ignorance
    Band together to bring you to your knees
    For your actions we have no tolerance
    Your blind hate, prejudice, a disease

    Beating up kids who don't share your views
    Pull that shit with us and you'll lose
    We may lose some battles
    But we'll win this war
    We may have sat complacent once, no more


    The mid 1990s saw explosive growth due in large part to the pro animal rights, pro straight edge band Earth Crisis. The more metallic Bands of this era were One King Down, Brother’s Keeper and Strife. Many of these bands and people involved embraced a militant animal rights stance. It was at this time that Straight Edge gained notoriety, incorrectly, for advocating violence and a gang like mentality in places like Salt Lake City Utah. While misconceptions continue to this day, there is no truth or foundation in accusations like these. These stories were isolated and were blown out of proportion and ended many many years ago. During this time a large portion of people involved in Straight Edge were vegan however they were and still are viewed as completely seperate beliefs. Now however veganism is not as popular as it once was nor are any of the prominent bands now militant animal rights supporters.

    Firestorm by Earth Crisis was often misinterpreted and pointed to as an example of advocating violence in the name of straight edge. However as with most hardcore the song wasn't literal, but the mainstream press doesn't understand subtext.

    Firestorm from the Firestorm EP/ The Oath that keeps me Free
    Street by street.
    Block by block.
    Taking it all back.
    The youth's immersed in poison
    Turn the tide counterattack.
    Violence against violence,
    Let the roundups begin.
    A firestorm to purify the bane that society drowns in.


    During this same time period saw a Youth Crew revival spearheaded by Ten Yard Fight and included bands like In My Eyes, Hands Tied, Atari, Rancor, 97a, and Better than a Thousand.
    Far less militant than the "vegan warriors" of the time, these bands were positive and brought crucial and edgemen back into the lexicon.

    Courage to Care by In My Eyes from The Difference between

    Growing up not slowing down
    Time got your best just look around
    But I've found something that keeps me aware
    A whole scene of people with the courage to care
    Your youth is behind you
    As if you were dead
    Those times were good man
    My best lies ahead
    When I deal with you now
    All I get is upset
    You keep pushing me away
    Something you'll regret
    I know only a few have the will to stay sincere
    Seeing different faces every fucking year!


    The first half of the 2000's have seen a lot of ups and downs in both the number of straight edge kids as well as the number of bands. There currently aren't an overwhelming number of straight edge bands as there once were, but the ones that are around are doing it with all their heart. Recently ending bands A.18 and Over My Dead Body were straight edge super groups made up largely by members from earlier bands and all involving men in their 30s a rarity in hardcore and especially straight edge. Some bands that keeping things alive and spreading the message, With Honor, Casey Jones, Champion, The Answer, and Blue Monday

    The Mirror by With Honor from their Self Titled EP

    I've let tomorrow be a good excuse for
    Not changing today
    Looking over our lists of to-do's routines have gotten in the way
    Day in, day out it becomes the same
    I'm tired of standing for nothing and sleepwalking our time away

    Leaving our questions unanswered
    Or never asking at all

    Could we be something more?
    Than we are right now?
    Eyes closed, shut tight,
    Apathy has us by the throat,
    Loosen the ropes and let our dreams take flight!

    So often we let our dreams fall away but not this time... let's go

    I feel like I've never wanted something so bad as this
    Stand up and be something more!

    We’ll make a change
    STAND UP
    No time to waste
    RIGHT NOW
    STRAIGHT EDGE



    I would also like to take the time and oppurtunity to thank The Promise for their years of dedication and great music. Thanks guys and good luck with whatever you decide to do next

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    май ще те разочаровам като ти кажа, че нищо от изброените не съм вземал. Мои познати да, но аз лично не.

    Цитирай Първоначално написано от Dr. Kazimbutt
    exploitedteen написа:
    редене на бийтове и семпли...
    бързо омръзва...
    няма го заряда на живата музика...

    Най-точното обяснение защо електронната музика не е стойностна.
    Най-точното доказателство, колко си ограничен и гледаш повърхостно на този вид музика.

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    Похвално.

    Аз сънувам мамо аз сънувам мамо,
    мерцедеси само, мерцедеси само,
    лъскави и черни нови и модерни,
    мерцедеси мамо мерцедеси мамо.

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    Цитирай Първоначално написано от LunaTriCk
    май ще те разочаровам като ти кажа, че нищо от изброените не съм вземал. Мои познати да, но аз лично не.

    Цитирай Първоначално написано от Dr. Kazimbutt
    exploitedteen написа:
    редене на бийтове и семпли...
    бързо омръзва...
    няма го заряда на живата музика...

    Най-точното обяснение защо електронната музика не е стойностна.
    Най-точното доказателство, колко си ограничен и гледаш повърхостно на този вид музика.
    Аз мога да си мисля същото за тебе, защото не слушаш рок, знаеш ли?

    "Music, sweet music, I wish I could caress, caress, caress..."

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    Doktora e pe4eno kopele kefi me kak razsujdava i zatapva respect


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    Хех, ако ми посочих къде съм казал, че не слушам рок и не е стойностна музика, мооооже и да се замисля, че си се опитал да ме затапиш

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    Останах с впечатление, че признаваш само техното, защото като казах, че за мене тази музика няма стойност, ти веднага започна да обиждаш и т.н. Това е моето мнение. Ако те кефи - добре. Ако не те кефи - не ме интересува.

    "Music, sweet music, I wish I could caress, caress, caress..."

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    Не признавам само електронната музика. Просто нея предпочитам пред всички други. От много стилове съм слушал по 5-6 песнички и съм си направил сметка, че електронното е за мен Просто се издразних, че за вас едно техно парче е само "редене на бийтове и семпли", което далеч не е така.

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    Разликата между едно техно парче и друго рок (примерно ай) е в инструментите. Еднакви емоции ще породи в този, който го слуша. Дали ще се дрънка китара или баса ще те удря в бъбреците, аз не виждам разлика. Защо се използват допълнителни химически неща ли ? За да се усили ефекта. Както и ти увеличаваш литрите алкохол за да се тресеш по-силно на пънк, така и те увеличават химията в себе си за да ги погълне изцяло музиката.

    П.П. докато пишех това мнение звучеше един трак от сет на Deep Dish с точните думи за в момента:
    Not everyone understands house music
    it's a spiritual thing, a body thing, a soul thing...

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    Защо ли аз мога да постигна желания ефект, слушайки музика ненадрусан?

    "Music, sweet music, I wish I could caress, caress, caress..."

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    Цитирай Първоначално написано от Dr. Kazimbutt
    Защо ли аз мога да постигна желания ефект, слушайки музика ненадрусан?
    Mai stanahme 2-ma ...
    do kolkoto slushah na "mati zemlya" i "samsarah beach" sa se razmazali dostoino ... samo ne razbiram s kakvo im "pomaga"...

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    Не е нужно да си музикант за да си рапър. Това са моите наблюдения. За да си рапър дрябва да чувстваши, да виждаш и да си отоворен за всета. Да го пречупваш през призмата на бедността, мечтите и амбициите. За пример ще дам DMX. Той е истински гето лирик. Същото се отнася и за 2Pac!

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    abe pak li q izvadihte nagore taq tema...topica trqbva6e da svu6ri v momenta v koito otgovorih na machoka na zada4kite koito mi postavi,na koito se spravih ob6to vzedo "sredno" dobre.pone troika vurzah mislq...

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